I've said this before: there is a reason why in all the big tech companies the senior level is considered the terminal level. Big data and machine learning are generally going to make more and have a larger impact in their field than front end or a back end microservice engineering. Once you reach those levels, the only positions above that would be non-IC VP of your org or CTO.Ĭoming back to the titles being meaningless, a senior engineers at same company with the same title may not be be in the same part of the salary band depending on their specialty. The pay and bonus structures at those levels are commiserate with director+ positions. At my company, those levels follow a nomination process and generally the nominees have multiple patents under their belt, so they are breaking new ground in their domain. Some places may allow them to have direct reports, but most of their capacity is still in IC. Probably less then 5% make it to distinguished and less than 1% fellow, if your company is large enough to offer them.ĭistinguished and fellows roughly equate to directors or executive directors. Maybe another 20%, as principal/staff/lead. Likewise, small companies may not even have that many levels of 'directorship'.įor most engineers, I would guess 75% end with 'senior engineer' as their terminal position. Most people in management aren't ever going to hit VP at their company some level of director/senior director/executive director is a gate that is terminal for 99% of management and most may not even make it there. The IC track basically mirrors the management track in terms of it's terminal state. It might be OK to talk about the merits of an interview process, or compare what has been successful at your company, but if it ends up just turning into complaints your post might still be removed. There is no interesting/new content coming out. This has been re-hashed over and over again. No questions like “Should I learn C#” or “Should I switch jobs into a language I don’t know?”ĭiscussion about industry direction or upcoming technologies is fine, just frame your question as part of a larger discussion (“What have you had more success with, RDBMS or NoSQL?”) and you’ll be fine.Ħ. This includes almost any discussion about a “hot market”, comparing compensation between companies, etc. General rule of thumb: If the advice you are giving (or seeking) could apply to a “Senior Chemical Engineer”, it’s not appropriate for this sub.Īsking if you should ask for a raise, switch companies (“should I work for company A or company B”), “should I take offer A or offer B”, or related questions, is not appropriate for this sub. Career advice threads may be removed at the moderators discretion based on response to the thread." This sub is for discussing issues specific to experienced developers.Īny career advice thread must contain questions and/or discussions that notably benefit from the participation of experienced developers. Violations = Warning, 7-Day Ban, Permanent Ban. This includes posts that could be interpreted as trolling, such as complaining about DEI (Diversity) initiatives or people of a specific sex or background at your company.ĭo not submit posts or comments that break, or promote breaking the Reddit Terms and Conditions or Content Policy or any other Reddit policy. No racism, unnecessarily foul language, ad hominem charges, sexism - none of these are tolerated here. If you have less than 3 years of experience as a developer, do not make a post, nor participate in comments threads except for the weekly “Ask Experienced Devs” auto-thread. Do not participate unless experienced (3+ years) This community leans towards being a specialized subreddit facilitating discussion amongst individuals who have gained some ground in the IT world.įor an idea of what is encouraged in this subreddit and what is not (please report anything that does not follow the rules): Rulesġ. Welcome to the /r/ExperiencedDevs subreddit! We hope you will find this as a valuable resource in your journeys down the fruitful CS/IT career paths.
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